5. Exclusive "Downton Abbey" Bombshell. To those who have spent too long trying to read the bell board to learn the names of the rooms, this is for you (from the book, "Downton Abbey Rules for Household Staff"). Then Mary unwisely takes Marigold along with her son George and Cora to the Drewe's farm to view the pigs for the Moulton show where Mrs Drewe suddenly appears and has an emotional reunion with Marigold, whom she has clearly not got over even though its been months since the little girl left Yew Tree Farm. There was something that didn't look right. There's something not right about the child that plays Marigold. It would be completely out of the show's character. Brancaster Castle, Northumberland, EnglandDownton Abbey, Downton, Yorkshire, England (formerly)Yew Tree Farm, Yorkshire, England (formerly)Geneva, Switzerland (formerly) I'm certain it will be proven later at the very least she has Aspergers or some other dreaful impediment. I think kids in general have stricter rules around how long they can work so hiring quiet kids for scenes helps speed up filming. I think there is something off with you for thinking that. Was is Marigold, or the director? Unfortunately, Marigold died of an illness when she was just three. This has to be a director's choice to make Marigold have a flat affect. Perhaps she doesn't like Edith? The work and court case that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. forwarded in legal discovery was that there has never been one safety study on any vaccine. Downton Abbey season 6. or is seriously traumatized to fein the kind of passivity that is NOT normal for a child of any age.. either which way, there is something askew about dear sweet, young, appearing to be traumatized, marigold whoever is directing, producing, financing this $netflix money maker should have and hopefully WILL make the hard decision to replace their marigold character to those of us who quite frankly see what you see, this is inexcusable .. get on it do what you should have done. You people are looking way too deeply into this. I can't begin to guess what is "wrong" (or, different) about this child, but the producers of Downton knew they had a hit show and continued using this child actress. Downton Abbey season 6. Timothy Drewe (former foster father)Margie Drewe (former foster mother)Peter Drewe (former foster brother)Billy Drewe (former foster brother)Unnamed former foster sisterRobert Crawley (maternal grandfather)Cora Crawley (maternal grandmother)Mirada Pelham (step-grandmother)Mary Talbot (maternal aunt)Sybil Branson (maternal aunt) Matthew Crawley (maternal marital uncle) Tom Branson (maternal marital uncle)Henry Talbot (maternal marital uncle) Sybbie Branson (maternal first cousin)George Crawley (maternal first cousin)Caroline Talbot (maternal first cousin)Violet Crawley (great-grandmother)Patrick Crawley (great-grandfather) Rosamund Painswick (grand-aunt)Martha Levinson (great-grandmother)Isidore Levinson (great-grandfather) Harold Levinson (grand-uncle)Victoria Rachel Cora Aldridge (maternal third cousin)Reginald Crawley (maternal third cousin twice removed)Isobel Grey (third cousin-in-law twice removed) As a new Downton fan I have just watched all the episodes and this is my first visit to this Wiki when I see this forum right on the home page I joined so I could comment on your comments. Later, Robert does reveal to Edith he knows who Marigold is, and feels that they must do the best for her, for both Edith's and Michael's sake, but of course to keep Marigold's true identity within the family. Possible, but without more evidence or studies, impossible to diagnose. It is not that she is tried, or doesn't understand understand what is going on around her it is the fact she simply doesn't care. About Highclere Castle (Downton Abbey). As one viewer notes on Reddit, Laila and Amelia Whitney played Marigold for the first couple of episodes in series five, but were switched to Eva and Karina Samms in the sixth episode. I hate it when adults want to pinhold a child into being what they think a child should be. Possibly, Rosamund may have been counting the weeks or so that she knew that Edith was pregnant and then the many months in Geneva with Edith during her pregnancy. On my millionth rewatch of Downton Abbey and I cannot stand Ethel. Viewers will see the Earl of Grantham commit the ultimate betrayal as he shares a steamy kiss with his maid, Jane, on Sunday night. This is a BABY being a BABYnot an actor. She is the third grandchild and second granddaughter of Robert and Cora Crawley, and therefore the third great-grandchild and second great-granddaughter of Violet Crawley and Martha Levinson. I worked for years as a chaperone in TV, film and theatre. Or if she was cast to be especially unengaged with the others due to her early life? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It always bothered me how she was so spaced out. Cora reveals Marigold will have moved to her stepfather's estate of Brancaster Castle in Northumberland by the end of Edith and Bertie's . SPOILER ALERT: Downstairs comes upstairs as Downton's Earl has secret bedroom tryst with his new maid. They grow up so quickly! Qualities Of A Career Woman, Several online comments by Downton followers suggest that the character was written to be autistic. So I'm sure the adorable little girls who played her were just sleepy from playtime or had just gotten up from a nap, you know, something like that. For children's roles that are relatively minor and non-speaking, they want to cast quiet, easygoing children. I don't think I've ever seen her smile or make any sort of intelligent-seeming motion. I'm certain it will be proven later at the very least she has Aspergers or some other dreaful impediment. A wedding and a suicide attempt shock the house. MC. Marigold (b. late December, 1922 or early January 1923) is the illegitimate daughter and only child of Edith Pelham and the late Michael Gregson. 4. Or, more likely, Edith and Rosamund may have spent a month or two in Switzerland after Marigold was born as Edith is already two months pregnant (having been told mid-June and trip announcement in August) when they announce that they would to leave to go abroad to Switzerland to improve their French. I've been on play and movie sets. Hopefully this should melt the miserable ice queens heart, for good. Marigold may have inherited some of her mother's traits. Others speculate that the child playing the part may have been sedated to keep her quiet. Two/three-year-old Marigold with her adoptive mother, Margie Drewe. He then tells Robert that he and his family are leaving Yew Tree for good so as to prevent any further problems involving Marigold. Back at Downton, Cora learns from Mrs Drewe that she has a third grandchild. Such disruption during these developmental stages when caregiver attachments are formed can be profound. Several online comments by Downton followers suggest that the character was written to be autistic. It's actually possible to imagine a new TV series spun off in The Downton Abbey movie is not as spectacularly star-studded as Gosford Park, but it's got its share of A-list talent, however: Maggie Smith, of course. Recently is possible to find a disease to describe everything making them a trend. Gray I noticed that the Samms girls seemed withdrawn, but that might have been their response to being on a set with so many people and so much going on all around them, rather than anything medical. Regretting her decision, she conceives a scheme to bring the child to England and place her closer to Downton with tenant farmer family the Drewes, where she can visit her often. Michael Gregson (biological father) Edith Pelham (mother/legal guardian)Herbert Pelham (stepfather)Peter Pelham (half-brother) The Christmas clip is most telling. She's had to settle for being an extremely talented movie director instead. She really is getting meaner by the moment. She'd prefer to be back home with her siblings. In series six she reacted to her surroundings more. A blog about Decorating, fashion, gardens, the beach, gardening, cooking, photography, all influenced by my Italian and Argentine roots. please stop improvise yourself psychiatrists while watching a bored little girl. They tell her to stand here and be very quiet, or sit here and eat this. She suggests the Drewes claim they cannot afford to keep her anymore and so have Edith adopt her. Things are about to get steamy at the Grantham country house in Downton Abbey. It is not that she is tried, or doesn't understand understand what isgoing on around herit is the factshe simply doesn't care. 'Downton Abbey' Recap: Lady Mary Reveals Marigold's True Identity Lady Edith discovers that her engagement got even sweeter, as Bertie is the heir to his cousin's estate, but the miserable Lady. There is definitely something off with Marigold I noticed it from the beginning. Misery truly loves company and the depressed widow couldn't stand to see her sister happy. I thought the same years ago and mentioned to a family member. We only see them for about ten seconds and in an environment that is completely unnatural to them. Songs and music featured in Downton Abbey Soundtrack. Is she Autistic? Over at the school house, Mr. Moseley isnt the best teacher the children dont obey him at all. When "Downton Abbey" came to an end, the Samms twins also made an appearance in the first "Downton" film (via IMDb). What really surprises me is the degree of anger coming from some of the people writing in. It was so noticeable to me that i sat up and paid attention if she seemed happy. Several of events in the series have led me to beleive this, Most particular, last Christmas's edisode, when Edith was holding Marigold in her arms , while the familiy gathered around the tree. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Her eyes are too hooded, in S.6 when she rolls out her tongue after being given back to Lord Grantham it is a typical developmentally challengedphysical attribute and as one poster wrote, her facial expressions during such a scene ( and I've seen it in ALL her other scenes) her facial expressions are flat. We hope you enjoy your stay. While she's always the first to tear Lady Edith down she took it a step further by breaking up her engagement -- and that wasn't even the biggest moment of the episode! SPOILER ALERT: Downstairs comes upstairs as Downton's Earl has secret bedroom tryst with his new maid. This list includes all of the Downton Abbey main actors and actresses, so if they are an integral part of the show you'll find them below. He admits to Cora he agrees with her that she is a "dear little thing" but feels there is something about her, a "sense of deja vu" that he cannot quite understand. ------. Abbey Visitor 1 episode, 2015. That only meant that she was not a natural actress. 3. And by the way, "Aspergers" is a mild form of autism and would likely not be characterized with the physical and behavioural attributes you listed above which are more likely due to a more severe developmental condition. Downton Abbey Season 5 Scoop, Downton Abbey Season 5 SPOILERS: Twins Cast To Play Ediths Baby Daughter; Filming Begins With New Cast Members. It almost breaks up Edith & Bertie. The teaser. : , , . Same as older Sybbie, she had those droopy eyes like Sybil's. . Edith had considered taking Marigold to America, dropping her title and inventing a dead husband. However Mr Drewe calmly persuades his wife to hand Marigold to him and he hands Marigold back to Edith while his wife watches sadly from the window. Why did Eren see the future when he touched Historias hand? Edirh gently movied an ornate ornamen, moving itt slowly back and forth in front in Marigold's face Not once but twice, the little girl could not follow the ornament, but looked totally askance with a blank expression..Even a four month old can follow an object. Autistic children often look perfectly "right". The first Marigold was older than the second. What other things that are different from your "normal" do you consider "not right"? 24.60.28.139Agree! He was the employer and lover of Lady Edith Crawley, and the late father of her only daughter, Marigold. Henry pays an unexpected visit and Lady Mary is miserable about it as he says he wont give up. Female What happened to Edith's daughter in Downton Abbey? Cora then casts a worried look to Mr Drewe who then tugs Marigold out of his wife's grasp and then they return back to the house for luncheon. Tom rings the Dowager Countess, and she talks to Mary, who breaks down about the fear of being a crash widow again. Pictures Of Sandwiches With Names, do fungi have cell walls made of cellulose. Or have only I noticed this because I tend to pay particular attention to child actors in things I watch? Maybe there is no dissabilty or autism but maybe she told to act that way i don't know (just a theory). The Christmas clip is most telling. Viewers will see the Earl of Grantham commit the ultimate betrayal as he shares a steamy kiss with his maid, Jane, on Sunday night. Rosamund must have been a disappointment for Violet. However much I love him, I will always love you, she says. She seems to look off, as if she notices no one or anything. After Edith and Bertie were married, Marigold would later move to Brancaster Castle in Northumberland, which was the ancestral seat of the Marquess of Hexham, where she would grow up (along with a nanny). It's clearly just a case of the actresses needing to get used to the set. Mary calls for Henry, but before he arrives she pays a visit to Matthews grave. Downton Abbey. Liittynyt syyskuu 2010. Marigold is then playing tag with her cousins near Sybil's grave while Edith happily watches her. Those kind of toddlers do exist (mine wasn't by any stretch, but I had friends who had super-chill toddlers). If the writers don't plan to include a challenged child in the plot (and unveil it soon), I think it's very poor casting and it draws attention away from the story line because viewers - instead of paying attention to the plot - sit there thinking, "What the heck is wrong with Marigold?" Think Nurture not just Nature. Typical of the aristocratic life in the early 1900's, Marigold now lives under the stigma of adoption, while being cared for by nannies- yet another bond she will have to build. Viewers will see the Earl of Grantham commit the ultimate betrayal as he shares a steamy kiss with his maid, Jane, on Sunday night. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works The Whitney twins made "a VERY brief appearance in episode 7" according to the viewer, but the Samms twins went back to playing Marigold after that. I don't think there's anything wrong with her. : , , . Many of the footmen shipped off to the front; Sybil gave up her privileged lifestyle to become an auxiliary nurse; Edith learned to drive, helped out on a tenant farm, and brought reading material to wounded soldiers. Lady Edith discovers that her engagement got even sweeter, as Bertie is the heir to his cousin's estate, but the miserable Lady Mary manages to break up her sister's relationship by revealing the true identity of Marigold in this emotional episode -- and that's not all! Chaperones are hired to supervise the children on set and are independent of both the parents and the production. Although you may know about child actors and the their interactions with people on set, apparently you know nothing of children with some form of developmental issue. I even remember my mom, who didnt even regularly watch the show but was watching an episode that featured a scene with Marigold and she immediately was saying something looked off. Sets, costumes and props. A series of marriages, births, and deaths would be difficult enough for the occupants even if there weren't vicious criminals on the loose. A Duke arrives to court Lady Mary, but he's more of a man's man. Downton Abbey (2019) Full Cast & Crew See agents for this cast & crew on IMDbPro Directed by Writing Credits Cast (in credits order) complete, awaiting verification Produced by Music by John Lunn Cinematography by Ben Smithard Film Editing by Mark Day Casting By Jill Trevellick Production Design by Donal Woods Art Direction by Set Decoration by Geesh, such ignorance! Single Barrel Vs Double Barrel, The same instance when the thre children were playing in thr library, foused and alert. . Hollywood Life, Latest Hollywood Celebrity & Entertainment News. Robert: I don't know. Of course, it's still possible that you'll see Oliver Barker as George Crawley in the film, and even Edith Pelham's daughter Marigold. Edith repeatedly visited Yew Tree Farm to see her daughter, arousing the suspicions of Drewe's wife. The three eldest children, Sybbie (Fifi Hart), George, and Marigold (Eva and Karina Samms), are still children who innocently play and are warmly coddled in Downton Abbey: A New Era. Sets, costumes and props. Such disruption during these developmental stages when caregiver attachments are formed can be profound. on Christmas Day 2015 on a relatively high note (unlike the 2012 Christmas special): Edith married Bertie Pelham - despite him originally calling off the engagement due to finding out about her daughter Marigold. By 1927, she has a younger cousin named Caroline Talbot, and her mother is pregnant with her half-sibling. Ouch. Downton Abbey Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. However, I want to give her the benefit of the doubt. chill out, seriously. Yew Tree Farm, Yorkshire, England (formerly)Geneva, Switzerland (formerly). She tells her she cant begin her marriage with a big lie between them, referring to Marigold. Is Marigold Autistic? Does Edith also resemble her parents? Tom takes Miss Bunting to the second floor. Well, FINALLY. As to your likening of Aspergers to a "dreaful [sic] impediment" is very short sighted as many people diagnosed with the condition as children, with the help of caring and understanding therapies, grow into productive, intelligent and socially adjusted adults. When Lady Edith integrates Marigold into the Grantham family, she identifies her as a foundling, taken in by the largess of Downton Abbey. Lady Mary tells Henry that she believes she met her match, and he wants to marry her immediately. However, Rosamund says - in Episode 5.05 - that she spent "10 months" of her life making sure the baby came safely. Dowager Countess' best quotes on Downton Abbey will live on in infamy. These are all early signs of autism and other developmental delays. I feel like all passionate DA fans would react like this. Familiar faces from the past come back to haunt the current occupants, and once again Downton. 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